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Religion: still a valid option?
#13
The only thing religion is good for is optimism/encouragement. Using it in place of science though is something that should've been abandoned a long time ago.
#14
(04-17-2018, 02:35 PM)puccioni Wrote:  In these days and age, do you feel that humanity still has a use for religion? Does'nt science (i.e. the scientific approach) hold all the answers (or all the possible questions)?

Are you still actually religious?

Science cannot address normative issues, only a moral framework can do that. Science is a purely predictive framework, and has nothing prescriptive to say about the world.
If you treat religion, as the source code for a human's teleology then it is absolutely useful.
#15
(04-17-2018, 03:03 PM)r0m4n Wrote:  
(04-17-2018, 02:35 PM)puccioni Wrote:  In these days and age, do you feel that humanity still has a use for religion? Does'nt science (i.e. the scientific approach) hold all the answers (or all the possible questions)?

Are you still actually religious?

it's okay. People are just stupid

Although plenty of religious fanatics are fucking retards, many were also just indoctrinated at birth and have never been exposed to different ways of thinking.
#16
The argument that you need religion for morality is bogus,,, human beings have empathy for a reason, and that's where all morality comes from-- don't do shit to other people that you wouldn't want done to you. Religion is just a scam to profit from giving people false hope
#17
(08-01-2018, 02:37 AM)Ashfanino Wrote:  The argument that you need religion for morality is bogus,,, human beings have empathy for a reason, and that's where all morality comes from-- don't do shit to other people that you wouldn't want done to you. Religion is just a scam to profit from giving people false hope

It's not that you need religion for morality, its that morality IS religion. Your values ARE your god. There is no such thing as objective good and evil, those change meaning depending on your frame of reference, so therefore the only thing with meaning is the worldview itself, which inherently makes it holy.
#18
Everybody has to believe in something - someone call it religion, other faith.
#19
(08-01-2018, 02:44 AM)booloop Wrote:  
(08-01-2018, 02:37 AM)Ashfanino Wrote:  The argument that you need religion for morality is bogus,,, human beings have empathy for a reason, and that's where all morality comes from-- don't do shit to other people that you wouldn't want done to you. Religion is just a scam to profit from giving people false hope

It's not that you need religion for morality, its that morality IS religion. Your values ARE your god. There is no such thing as objective good and evil, those change meaning depending on your frame of reference, so therefore the only thing with meaning is the worldview itself, which inherently makes it holy.

It may be holy, but it has nothing to do with God then,,, it just means we elevate our beliefs to the status of a religion. What I'm saying is that God from the Bible doesn't exist, the whole Bible is a fairy tale,,, our morality, the morality which the people who wrote the bible used, comes from inside of us. So I guess you could say we're all God, but there is no kind old man in the sky called God as told to us by the Bible (or Quran or whatever other storybook)
#20
One is Belief/ Faith, other is Fact.. both goes parallel as s'one said twigs of a branch/tree.. Many of the things we believe for which Science has no answers.. science has progressed a lot but still..
#21
If we're talking about religion like an organized thing telling you what to think, it seems bogus in 2018, but you have to believe in something though, so belief is still valid option, maybe not religion
 


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